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    I know he is not everybodys flavour of the month but I can see why Billy is persevering with him. He has had no luck lately. When he outmuscled the Watford defender I could see he was creating space for a left foot shot, and what a shot it was. Their goal keeper got his finger tips to it but he had no idea that it would deflect on to a post and back out into his arms. He was the luckiest man on the pitch and Miller was the unluckiest along with Lansbury.

    Some may say Watford were unlucky not to score again but their shots were saved by men not goal posts. Other teams in the championship must be trembling in their boots watching the display these two teams put on. Forest and Watford positions 1/2 either way. Onwards and upwards forget play offs we're not going there !


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    Default Re: Ishmael Miller

    He's a great option to have on the bench just to watch defenders brick it.

    He's raw, behind other pros in terms of where he should be at development wise at his age, but there's still things we can get from him.


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    I agree with Alf. I wouldn't necessarily start Miller but he does have strengths and he's a useful player to have in the wings.

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    It's true, he did show something in this game.

    The missed assist may have cost us two points, I hope he learns from that.

    Kinda good that his contract is up at the end of the season - gives him some added impetus to perform.


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    Good that the manager his showing him he's in his plans by giving him game time. Maybe if he can get some confidence he could have some use. Just have to try forget the alleged wages he's supposed to be on.


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    For me even if he had of scored with that left foot shot, it wouldn't have made up for his unbelievable selfishness that came just moments before. Fuckin criminal. Exactly the kind of player we don't want playing for us.


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    Quote Originally Posted by frobisher View Post
    I know he is not everybodys flavour of the month but I can see why Billy is persevering with him. He has had no luck lately. When he outmuscled the Watford defender I could see he was creating space for a left foot shot, and what a shot it was. Their goal keeper got his finger tips to it but he had no idea that it would deflect on to a post and back out into his arms. He was the luckiest man on the pitch and Miller was the unluckiest along with Lansbury.

    Some may say Watford were unlucky not to score again but their shots were saved by men not goal posts. Other teams in the championship must be trembling in their boots watching the display these two teams put on. Forest and Watford positions 1/2 either way. Onwards and upwards forget play offs we're not going there !
    Don't underestimate QPR.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickie Trees View Post
    Don't underestimate QPR.
    Id agree with that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Giuseppe Gariboldi View Post
    Kinda good that his contract is up at the end of the season - gives him some added impetus to perform.
    There's a few lads now who are in a great position - they can work hard and come with us to the next division up or they can be one of the big championship club 'rejects' who end up at (no disrespect intended) Yeovil or Doncaster or Barnsley. It's a do or die year and whatever opinion we are left with of Miller, Derbyshire et. al. come may is whatever opinion they deserve.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Fan Olly View Post
    For me even if he had of scored with that left foot shot, it wouldn't have made up for his unbelievable selfishness that came just moments before. Fuckin criminal. Exactly the kind of player we don't want playing for us.
    If he's scored and made the assist we'd all be hailing his arrival as a viable player


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    Quote Originally Posted by Giuseppe Gariboldi View Post
    If he's scored and made the assist we'd all be hailing his arrival as a viable player
    But he didn't score, and didn't even attempt to make the assist..
    If Harding had come on up front and scored a bicycle kick, made a 60 yard cross field assist and got a man sent off then I'd be hailing his arrival as well, but he didn't..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Fan Olly View Post
    For me even if he had of scored with that left foot shot, it wouldn't have made up for his unbelievable selfishness that came just moments before. Fuckin criminal. Exactly the kind of player we don't want playing for us.
    It certainly does not fit with the team ethic we have.
    We were screaming at the TV for him to give it Cohen

    BUT, having said that, maybe a selfish striker could be a good thing? Everyone is good at assists but a greedy bastard that smashes it in the net a lot we have not got.


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    I can't wait for this player to leave our great club.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Fan Olly View Post
    But he didn't score, and didn't even attempt to make the assist..
    It was... frustrating.

    Any other player would have passed. Could any other player have made the run? I don't know tbh. That pass could have resulted in being two points better off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Fan Olly View Post
    For me even if he had of scored with that left foot shot, it wouldn't have made up for his unbelievable selfishness that came just moments before. Fuckin criminal. Exactly the kind of player we don't want playing for us.
    More unselfish strikers please. Definitely. Thank fuck we didn't get austin


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    Default Re: Ishmael Miller

    I rate Miller more than Derbyshire. Miller has a physical presence and potential. Confidence could make him a half decent squad player. Only time will tell.

    Derbyshire however is a remake of Arron Davies, slow, weak and beings nothing to the team.


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    Default Re: Ishmael Miller

    He never saw Cohen, he had one thing on his mind and had no idea Cohen was alongside.


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    Default Re: Ishmael Miller

    A striker who doesn't pass to one of two unmarked players when it's 3 v 1 isn't a selfish striker he's a stupid striker. Bored with discussing this guy's 'potential' tbh. We'll no doubt still be discussing how one day he might come good when he eventually leaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DapperDan View Post
    He never saw Cohen, he had one thing on his mind and had no idea Cohen was alongside.
    He had more than enough time to look up and realise what was happening around him. Sunday League stuff


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    Default Re: Ishmael Miller

    Football supporters will still be discussing Miller's "potential" the day he retires.

    He has all the physical tools, but unfortunately seems to lack the intelligence to play as a team-player.

    He's never going to win games on his own, and he lacks the thought to look for a better-placed team mate to which to pass.

    That sub appearance today almost sums-up his Forest career; so close, but yet, so far.

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    Default Re: Ishmael Miller

    We can keep telling him he is shit, or accept his faults and that Davies rates him to some degree. Its not like he is starting games and stopping other players playing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DapperDan View Post
    We can keep telling him he is shit, or accept his faults and that Davies rates him to some degree. Its not like he is starting games and stopping other players playing.
    This.
    Still want another decent striker though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DapperDan View Post
    We can keep telling him he is shit, or accept his faults and that Davies rates him to some degree. Its not like he is starting games and stopping other players playing.
    It's a commendable angle from which to view the whole debacle, but I just can't do it. Bring in the new blood.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rzarecteh View Post
    I rate Miller more than Derbyshire. Miller has a physical presence and potential. Confidence could make him a half decent squad player. Only time will tell.

    Derbyshire however is a remake of Arron Davies, slow, weak and beings nothing to the team.
    Agree with this.


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    Default Re: Ishmael Miller

    Today when he came on he showed he has the ability to play a part in my opinion.

    However coupled with that in equal measure he showed a complete lack of effort at times and some selfishness.

    I found myself amazed that he arguably denied us a great chance of scoring at one stage and then created a great chance single handed that required an excellent save to deny us 3 points.

    If Billy can find a way of getting him to apply the ability he has we have a real asset on our hands. That is appearing to be a massive challenge though and one I am sadly reluctant to believe right now will happen.

    Has to be one of the most frustrating players to watch in a Forest Shirt in a long while!


 

 

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