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    Default Alex, when are you going to take responsibility?

    On losing to Brum he said :

    "There is not a lot I can control about that, as the players have to take real responsibility and make sure they do not concede silly goals as they did against Birmingham.
    "It was pretty unprofessional to concede a goal with only 45 seconds to go in the first half."

    On losing to Watford he said :

    "We were devoid of any ideas and legs and it was one of the worst defensive performances I've seen - it was a 'brain dead' performance.

    Alex, you're the Manager. You are supposed to STOP THESE THINGS FROM HAPPENING. When are you going to take responsibility for these fuckups and fix them? If you're not going to manage the team, then piss off and make way for someone who will.


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    He needs to pick up his bagpipes and do one


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    Well he was supposed to improve us defensively, wasn't he?

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    Default Re: Alex, when are you going to take responsibility?

    To be fair, I think he's got a good point laying some responsibility on the players' shoulders. Fair enough, he takes a fair share himself in it being a massive element of his job to motivate them, but if the players get themselves set into a mindset of not wanting to play for someone (which I think some of them have), then it's nigh on impossible for the manager to break them of that mindset.


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    Default Re: Alex, when are you going to take responsibility?

    Yes NDM, but isn't it the managers job to get the best out of his players? On the basis of the performances so far, he's incapable of doing that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NDM91 View Post
    To be fair, I think he's got a good point laying some responsibility on the players' shoulders. Fair enough, he takes a fair share himself in it being a massive element of his job to motivate them, but if the players get themselves set into a mindset of not wanting to play for someone (which I think some of them have), then it's nigh on impossible for the manager to break them of that mindset.
    Billy Sharp being a prime example . I'd love Mcleish to explain why he takes Henderson off for Cox though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Castus View Post
    Billy Sharp being a prime example . I'd love Mcleish to explain why he takes Henderson off for Cox though.
    Because Fawaz told him to!

    Only joking


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEastIsRed View Post
    Yes NDM, but isn't it the managers job to get the best out of his players? On the basis of the performances so far, he's incapable of doing that.
    It is yes, but the players need to be open and willing to be motivated. If they are stubbornly refusing to then the problem lies with them, not McLeish.


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    Default Re: Alex, when are you going to take responsibility?

    You can prepare a team, choose the right line up, set the right tactics every single week, if your players are not going to put a shift in then the manager could set things up perfectly but it won't turn into a positive outcome will it.

    You have to question why players are not putting a shift in, could be lack of motivation to play for the manager could be the unsettling aspect of what's going on behind the scenes. I am sure the way he sees it is he's done his bit, they haven't done theirs. How he reacts and gets players putting a shift in again I don't know, he may not need to if he decides to leave.


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    Default Re: Alex, when are you going to take responsibility?

    mouldy you're walking right into the trap AMC has laid. Of course it's not his fault, the players are shit (he had a chance to rectify that in January but Fawaz stuck his oar in), they're not playing to the best of their abilities (even though HE AS MANAGER should make them do that), it's craptastic how bad a manager he is. Did you ever hear O'Disco complain about the players he inherited?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEastIsRed View Post
    mouldy you're walking right into the trap AMC has laid. Of course it's not his fault, the players are shit (he had a chance to rectify that in January but Fawaz stuck his oar in), they're not playing to the best of their abilities (even though HE AS MANAGER should make them do that), it's craptastic how bad a manager he is. Did you ever hear O'Disco complain about the players he inherited?
    No, SOD said we had played 'excellently' in games where we didn't manage a shot on target until the 80th off minute. I'd much rather have a manager that openly tells the players they have not been good enough when they have performed poorly than one who attempts to claim they played well.


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    To be fair to McLeish- hes right. There is only so much he can do.

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    Default Re: Alex, when are you going to take responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by mouldynffc View Post
    You can prepare a team, choose the right line up, set the right tactics every single week, if your players are not going to put a shift in then the manager could set things up perfectly but it won't turn into a positive outcome will it.

    You have to question why players are not putting a shift in, could be lack of motivation to play for the manager could be the unsettling aspect of what's going on behind the scenes. I am sure the way he sees it is he's done his bit, they haven't done theirs. How he reacts and gets players putting a shift in again I don't know, he may not need to if he decides to leave.
    Sounds a lot like that other scottish manager............it's everyone elses fault but mine


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    Default Re: Alex, when are you going to take responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheEastIsRed View Post
    mouldy you're walking right into the trap AMC has laid. Of course it's not his fault, the players are shit (he had a chance to rectify that in January but Fawaz stuck his oar in), they're not playing to the best of their abilities (even though HE AS MANAGER should make them do that), it's craptastic how bad a manager he is. Did you ever hear O'Disco complain about the players he inherited?
    He didn't complain, he just brought 14 in and got rid of the shower of shite before. Different manager, different views on the players he has, yet no signings.

    I am not saying he is completely innocent, motivating players to give 100% is an important aspect but you look at the sides with massive upheaval behind the scenes it usually tends to reflect in results, regardless of how good the players they have are.

    I am not saying if it weren't for that we would be playing so much better, what I am saying is it really hasn't helped one little bit.

    Sounds a lot like that other scottish manager............it's everyone elses fault but mine
    The main difference being, there was nothing for us to complain about or blame anyone for results wise with him. As well as the issues that were holding us back from going that extra yard were quite clearly issues at board level, rather than this case where you could have a valid argument to blame either party.


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    Default Re: Alex, when are you going to take responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by NDM91 View Post
    No, SOD said we had played 'excellently' in games where we didn't manage a shot on target until the 80th off minute. I'd much rather have a manager that openly tells the players they have not been good enough when they have performed poorly than one who attempts to claim they played well.
    For those bright enough to understand him, SOD said this season was always about performance than results, if players and the team put in consistant performances then as night follows day, results will follow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sedgred View Post
    Sounds a lot like that other scottish manager............it's everyone elses fault but mine
    What Colin Calderwood?.


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    Default Re: Alex, when are you going to take responsibility?

    For once, just for one day, can I have something to talk about that isn't negative about this club. Im f*cking sick of it.


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    We need another manager that just turns up to training and says "just fizz the ball about, that's right."


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    Quote Originally Posted by sedgred View Post
    Sounds a lot like that other scottish manager............it's everyone elses fault but mine



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    Default Re: Alex, when are you going to take responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by sedgred View Post
    For those bright enough to understand him, SOD said this season was always about performance than results, if players and the team put in consistant performances then as night follows day, results will follow.

    So praise a bad performance because the result doesn't matter this season? You're right, I may not be bright enough to see that logic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sedgred View Post
    For those bright enough to understand him, SOD said this season was always about performance than results, if players and the team put in consistant performances then as night follows day, results will follow.
    Don't try and snipe at my intelligence please, mate. I know SOD (and the owners too, apparently) were trying to build this season in order to get the results in the next. I was just making a basic comparison between the two managers. SOD's style may well have been the better suited to long term development, but McLeish needs immediate results and has done since he came in, his slating of the players reflects that.


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    Default Re: Alex, when are you going to take responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by sedgred View Post
    For those bright enough to understand him, SOD said this season was always about performance than results, if players and the team put in consistant performances then as night follows day, results will follow.
    But SODs results where better than his performances.


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    Default Re: Alex, when are you going to take responsibility?

    And AMC's results speak for themselves, don't they.


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    Default Re: Alex, when are you going to take responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by NDM91 View Post
    Don't try and snipe at my intelligence please, mate. I know SOD (and the owners too, apparently) were trying to build this season in order to get the results in the next. I was just making a basic comparison between the two managers. SOD's style may well have been the better suited to long term development, but McLeish needs immediate results and has done since he came in, his slating of the players reflects that.
    Reflects a level of desperation, matched only by Fawaz lovers trying to defend him and AM, they are a disgrace to the club and sooner both sod off the better.


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    Default Re: Alex, when are you going to take responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheEastIsRed View Post
    On losing to Brum he said :

    "There is not a lot I can control about that, as the players have to take real responsibility and make sure they do not concede silly goals as they did against Birmingham.
    "It was pretty unprofessional to concede a goal with only 45 seconds to go in the first half."

    On losing to Watford he said :

    "We were devoid of any ideas and legs and it was one of the worst defensive performances I've seen - it was a 'brain dead' performance.

    Alex, you're the Manager. You are supposed to STOP THESE THINGS FROM HAPPENING. When are you going to take responsibility for these fuckups and fix them? If you're not going to manage the team, then piss off and make way for someone who will.
    Couldn’t agree more!

    And to add to that I would like to know what planet these football managers are on? OK, we’re all disappointed that additions didn’t come during the transfer window, but as AM stated himself we have the “quality”. However, there’s for too much speculation that AM about to walk for there not to be some truth in it. I get tired of managers using the “we need more players” excuse for poor performances. Although gutted at SO’s sacking (and not being overly inspired by AM’s appointment), as a life-long REDS supporter I’ve backed him from day one. Managers like me in many other professions are constantly required to get results on the cheap or with limited, if not reduced resources, that’s the challenge, and rising to this challenge is what differentiates the great managers. Sure, some of the players are not stepping up, again we should look at AM as its his job to prepare, inspire and motivate the players.

    Players are showing their commitment to the club by signing new contracts - now I would urge AM to do the same and put this disappointment behind him. Nothing wrong with him expressing his frustration with the owners but now draw a line, pull your neck in and crack on.

    COYR!!!!


 

 

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