The Chris Cohen Effect

[Flagman]

Contract by Fawaz - hairstyle by Lego!

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[thehockleyhustler]

He's not going to be on 27 anyway

27k plus £1 for ever yard he covers on a match day.

He is going to bankrupt us!

[Red Dawn]

Surely isn't 27k.

Where did you get that from?

[DapperDan]

Your wives and girlfriends need to raise their standards, he has the face of a child!

[nffps7]

Chris Cohen certainly deserves a new deal for his effort and attitude, but was there really going to a be a queue of clubs after him? Not really. If he were our best player, first name of team sheet as suggested here, his agent would have touted him around the Premier. For a player with such a reputation he's attracted remarkably little interest because he's not good enough on the ball for the highest levels. That's why West Ham got rid. As another poster said he doesn't read the game like Gillet, lacks end product like Reid, so he'll always be shunted around filling holes,

And as for renewing Majewski's deal? That was a joke surely?

[thehockleyhustler]

Surely isn't 27k.

Where did you get that from?

The contract

[lard]

Great news now time to have a look at the others that are running out.

[averagewhiteboy]

Cohen is quality. His touch has been top notch considering, i would like to think him and gillet are competing for the same spot. I think cohen would be better.

[CloughyForEngland]

I think he's one of my favourite ever players. Just a top, top lad. So glad he's back and it's great to see him running around like a headless chicken again. Remember when we signed him and I didn't know anything about him. One of the best pieces of business we have done. Such a shame he had that injury but hopefully the old Chrissy is back.

[Ravi]

Contract by Fawaz - hairstyle by Lego!

[Flagman]

Love him to bits. Had the pleasure of dinner with him, TBT and a few others. Splendid company, articulate, eloquent, polite - all the things which isn't often reported of footballers - plus he bought us drinks all night.

I think he's replacing Terry Hennessey as Flagman's Dad's favourite player, and that's saying something...

[Captain Sinister]

Love him to bits. Had the pleasure of dinner with him, TBT and a few others. Splendid company, articulate, eloquent, polite - all the things which isn't often reported of footballers - plus he bought us drinks all night.

I think he's replacing Terry Hennessy as Flagman's Dad's favourite player, and that's saying something...

Apparently when Forest brought Jim Baxter to the City Ground, Terry Hennessy hosted a welcome party at Hennessy's house in Rud.
Baxter turned up half cut; completed the job on Terry's booze and then had a crack at seducing Hennessy's wife.
All true according to my (now dead) Uncle Bill who lived close by...

[Flagman]

Apparently when Forest brought Jim Baxter to the City Ground, Terry Hennessy hosted a welcome party at Hennessy's house in Rud.
Baxter turned up half cut; completed the job on Terry's booze and then had a crack at seducing Hennessy's wife.
All true according to my (now dead) Uncle Bill who lived close by...

Lad!

[Middle of No where]

Chris Cohen certainly deserves a new deal for his effort and attitude, but was there really going to a be a queue of clubs after him? Not really. If he were our best player, first name of team sheet as suggested here, his agent would have touted him around the Premier. For a player with such a reputation he's attracted remarkably little interest because he's not good enough on the ball for the highest levels. That's why West Ham got rid. As another poster said he doesn't read the game like Gillet, lacks end product like Reid, so he'll always be shunted around filling holes,

And as for renewing Majewski's deal? That was a joke surely?

But I suppose we should be trying to sign you up for the rest of your career Lewis I don't see the massive queue for McGugans signature either, so by your logic he must be crap as well.

[porks]

That logic is baffling when did you ever hear scholes or giggs linked to anyone?

[nffps7]

It's not worth bringing Giggs and Scholes into any debate over Chris Cohen. Cohen is a good honest trier, but come the end of the season he won't have won points and games like Reid and McGugan. People have long touted him for the top but that was never going to happen. What annoys me is that Cohen gets too much credit for his role. He runs and runs but that it easier to do that regualarly than the spectacular things tried by the other two. If we had 11 Cohens it would be 0-0 every week. So really fans have to share the praise a little more evenly get over the English obsession with hard workers, 'laziness'. Both Reid and McGugan have turned games several times this season. True they are one dimensional but so is Cohen and that is why none of them are in the Premier

[Erik]

It's not worth bringing Giggs and Scholes into any debate over Chris Cohen. Cohen is a good honest trier, but come the end of the season he won't have won points and games like Reid and McGugan. People have long touted him for the top but that was never going to happen. What annoys me is that Cohen gets too much credit for his role. He runs and runs but that it easier to do that regualarly than the spectacular things tried by the other two. If we had 11 Cohens it would be 0-0 every week. So really fans have to share the praise a little more evenly get over the English obsession with hard workers, 'laziness'. Both Reid and McGugan have turned games several times this season. True they are one dimensional but so is Cohen and that is why none of them are in the Premier

I take on board your views and would observe that last season when Cohen was either injured or playing at left back we had a f****** great hole in midfield.
Every team needs someone like Cohen who does all the hard work. Often it goes unappreciated because they go about their work efficiently, quietly, not banging in 30 yarders or making slide rule passes to the forwards.
A successful football team is a blend of styles and personalities. Cohen brings something to the Forest team that others don't. By the end of this season he will have helped win as many points as Reid and McGugan - Just in a different way.
Football is not always about the spectacular.
Pretty much Brian Clough's first signing wherever he went as manager was an ungainly, unglamorous workhorse. He allowed the others to play.

[Raymondo Ponte']

Well said Erik.

[big jay]

Don't renew McGugan's Fawaz. He can go.

Good idea, let his contract run out and watch him walk away for nothing because we all saw how well that policy served us over the last 5 years.

[chriscl]

As to an expectant queue of clubs wanting to sign Chris Cohen, first, he's been out for a year, and second, in "Football Manager" parlance, they'd probably be told "Chris Cohen is not for sale at any price".

We are going to have the peak-years of his career with us as a Forest player and that is something we should be looking forward to.

[DapperDan]

Where is this Cohen isn't creative myth coming from? Just because he runs all day doesn't mean that's all he does. He adds a level of urgency to our play which is sorely needed.

[Alf-Inge of Fudge]

Nice one Fawaz

Just been talking live on Matchtalk.

What a guy.

Talked about how players went for a meal with Fawaz, and they want to make the club more like a family.

That's massive, it really is. If we stay in this league, but field a team of players with attitudes such as Cohen, Dex & Gillet etc. then that's almost as good as going up for me. It means a lot having pride in those who take to the pitch and both Clough & Ferguson built vast success on having a "family" of players - I hope we do the same.

I personally think Chris Cohen could easily play in the Premier League.

Hopefully for us!

I agree, in fact I've more faith in him being able to do so than some of the more "talented" players - simply because he's got the right attitude and will put 100% in to improving his game to adapt to the step up. Where as other, "more talented" players often think that most of the hard work's already been done.

It's not worth bringing Giggs and Scholes into any debate over Chris Cohen. Cohen is a good honest trier, but come the end of the season he won't have won points and games like Reid and McGugan. People have long touted him for the top but that was never going to happen. What annoys me is that Cohen gets too much credit for his role. He runs and runs but that it easier to do that regualarly than the spectacular things tried by the other two. If we had 11 Cohens it would be 0-0 every week. So really fans have to share the praise a little more evenly get over the English obsession with hard workers, 'laziness'. Both Reid and McGugan have turned games several times this season. True they are one dimensional but so is Cohen and that is why none of them are in the Premier

If you had 11 John McGoverns you wouldn't have won a European Cup, but that's why a team is a balance of tryers/grafters/dirty work lads, and those who create/have flare/score.

Your ramblings wouldn't be so bad if the evidence result wise wasn't there for everyone to see - under Davies we played Cohen and was defensively far more tighter, he returns to the side and we keep two clean sheets on the spin. You may not appreciate his graft, but the facts speak for themselves and I can guarantee those who are more creative such as McGugan do appreciate his graft as they see more of the ball because of him. And as the Dapper one sez........

Where is this Cohen isn't creative myth coming from? Just because he runs all day doesn't mean that's all he does. He adds a level of urgency to our play which is sorely needed.

.........you have to bare in mind he's just returning from a lengthy lay-off too. He's hardly gonna be trying shots like his one against Blackpool whilst he finds his feet in the side again.

[porks]

It's not worth bringing Giggs and Scholes into any debate over Chris Cohen. Cohen is a good honest trier, but come the end of the season he won't have won points and games like Reid and McGugan. People have long touted him for the top but that was never going to happen. What annoys me is that Cohen gets too much credit for his role. He runs and runs but that it easier to do that regualarly than the spectacular things tried by the other two. If we had 11 Cohens it would be 0-0 every week. So really fans have to share the praise a little more evenly get over the English obsession with hard workers, 'laziness'. Both Reid and McGugan have turned games several times this season. True they are one dimensional but so is Cohen and that is why none of them are in the Premier

You missed the point about giggs and scholes I was implying they are never linked with another club, doesn't mean noone else has ever wanted them

[FBS]

Pretty much Brian Clough's first signing wherever he went as manager was an ungainly, unglamorous workhorse. He allowed the others to play.

Perfectly put, and we all know that Old Big 'Ead knew his onions

[witneyred]

Every team should have an engine, no glamour,no bitching, we have plenty of players with a nice touch, an eye for goal but someone has to be there to keep it together, we have players that start well and fade, Cohen has been out for a season and has already made people realise his value to the team.

He might not be as talented as XYZ of the forest team, but by god he makes up for it in effort and determination, how many players have we seen this season slow up, fade out and give up on occasion, I have seen plenty of static hands on hips and Cohen is your duracell bunny, he will keep going.