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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    Well, well, well.

    "The decision to destroy the landing cards for Windrush migrants was taken under Labour, former home secretary Alan Johnson has said.
    Asked if he knew about the 2009 decision, he told the BBC: "No, it was an administrative decision taken by the UK Border Agency.""
    And if you're not a fan of selective quoting ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43835664


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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD. View Post
    And if you're not a fan of selective quoting ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43835664
    The issue is that it was the UK Border Agency who took the decision not ANY Home Sec or PM.


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    Home Secretary Amber Rudd, yes, that one, who sledged her own department for being “too concerned with politics”?

    Oh:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e_iOSApp_Other

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    Quote Originally Posted by chriscl View Post
    Eh?

    One of the worst things the English did was the Beeching cuts in the 1960s. Now, you see what a folly that was.
    No it wasn’t , we didn’t need two lines from London to Leicester to Loughborough to Nottingham etc etc

    He foresaw the change in freight away from the railways for short journeys and into lorries and the rise of the car


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    Quote Originally Posted by tiffany View Post
    No it wasn’t , we didn’t need two lines from London to Leicester to Loughborough to Nottingham etc etc

    He foresaw the change in freight away from the railways for short journeys and into lorries and the rise of the car
    But no, now you have a railway system not fit for purpose, and your only option for commuting is the car.

    That cannot be right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    The issue is that it was the UK Border Agency who took the decision not ANY Home Sec or PM.
    Finally an honest answer from a politician (well ex one) and the conclusion is the one we happened upon 3 days ago!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by chriscl View Post
    But no, now you have a railway system not fit for purpose, and your only option for commuting is the car.

    That cannot be right.
    But it is not the fault of beeching

    The railways have nearly always been badly run, ironically , they were best run when they just before privatisation


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    Quote Originally Posted by tiffany View Post
    But it is not the fault of beeching

    The railways have nearly always been badly run, ironically , they were best run when they just before privatisation


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    Sell them off to the Germans. They know how to run a Railway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chriscl View Post
    Sell them off to the Germans. They know how to run a Railway.
    Like this company?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB_Schenker


    It has already been sold off to the Germnas, the French etc etc

    Last edited by tiffany; 20-04-18 at 18:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiffany View Post
    No it wasn’t , we didn’t need two lines from London to Leicester to Loughborough to Nottingham etc etc

    He foresaw the change in freight away from the railways for short journeys and into lorries and the rise of the car
    Irrespective of the folly of Beeching's cuts, he closed the wrong Nottingham station. Nottingham Victoria was far, far superior to Nottingham Midland, and Victoria to London Marylebone Station a better journey.

    Last edited by Otis Redd'un; 21-04-18 at 00:11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis Redd'un View Post
    Irrespective of the folly of Beeching's cuts, he closed the wrong Nottingham station. Nottingham Victoria was far, far superior to Nottingham Midland, and Victoria to London Marylebone Station a better journey.
    Better why?

    It wasn't folly, it was bloated and inefficient and the cuts he made were as a consequence of capital deciding where to put a railway and not centralised government(like the French & Germans)


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    If somethings losing money then cost cutting is the right thing to do.

    However they have just reinstated ilkeston train station at a cost of something daft like 10 million as it was the largest town on the rail network without a station in the UK.

    So clearly certain mistakes were made.

    We also had architectural masterpieces such as the 40 bridges and Bennerley viaduct which because of the cuts were left stranded which is a shame.

    The original station near us was/is (the building is still there, its a house) 40 yards away as the crow flies.

    Id have happily jumped on that everyday to get into town.... as it is to go by train its a 30 minute walk/5 minute drive to the train station and then you have to pay for parking at the almost always empty car park.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chriscl View Post
    Sell them off to the Germans. They know how to run a Railway.
    Much to the disappointment of 4m Jews


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    Quote Originally Posted by big jay View Post
    Much to the disappointment of 4m Jews
    Oooof! I didn't want to laugh to my credit.


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    I will only laugh when ljr has liked the post


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    Perhaps that's how they're lowering emissions, it gets pumped into showers instead of the environment?

    I walk around like everything is fine but deep down, in my shoe, my sock is sliding off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiffany View Post
    Better why?
    Just my opinion, but being in the centre of the city, Nottingham Victoria was ideally located, had significantly more platforms than the Midland Station (as it was then known) and directly served more parts of the country, whilst it's architecture was cathedral-like in both size and appearance.

    As for the journey from there to London Marylebone, it was noticeably quicker as I recall, and with less stops.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis Redd'un View Post
    Just my opinion, but being in the centre of the city, Nottingham Victoria was ideally located, had significantly more platforms than the Midland Station (as it was then known) and directly served more parts of the country, whilst it's architecture was cathedral-like in both size and appearance.

    As for the journey from there to London Marylebone, it was noticeably quicker as I recall, and with less stops.
    It was a wonderful building, whoever decided to knock it down and build the monstrosity on it needs shooting.

    You'd have passed through Oakham onthat route and taken the Seaton Viadcut near Corby, that's a lovely stretch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by big jay View Post
    Much to the disappointment of 4m Jews
    Holocaust jokes are great; better than being a Holocaust denier. Gallows humour is gallows humour and you can't make special exceptions for anyone, and you shouldn't, because humour is the way we humans deal with tragedy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chriscl View Post
    Sell them off to the Germans. They know how to run a Railway.
    How was the Birthday festival Chris?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-protests.html

    ....a few of your mates in Dad jeans and Nike trainers also. I think the old uniforms where much smarter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    How was the Birthday festival Chris?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-protests.html

    ....a few of your mates in Dad jeans and Nike trainers also. I think the old uniforms where much smarter.
    The “Adolf was the best” T-shirts did it for me.


 

 

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