the demise of liverpool 2

[winnits]

Aye, if you view it in a browser it's visible.

When I say contact I obviously mean before the ridiculous dive that he should've been booked for.

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[Barbus]

Yes I know what you mean but the second bit of the Suarez challenge - the bunny hop - and The Bale dive in totality are both pretty embarrassing.

I wonder if either of them can even comprehend that rugby player playing on with a busted bollock.

[Gary]

Sterling does look brilliant, I'm looking forward to seeing him in a couple of years...

[DanR]

Sterling does look brilliant, I'm looking forward to seeing him in a couple of years...

He'll have signed for Citeh by then.

[NWRed]

Yes I know what you mean but the second bit of the Suarez challenge - the bunny hop - and The Bale dive in totality are both pretty embarrassing.

I wonder if either of them can even comprehend that rugby player playing on with a busted bollock.

To be fair, I can't comprehend that.

[Barbus]

To be fair, I can't comprehend that.

Ha ha me neither but the contrast between the attitudes of footballers to rugby players is pretty interesting I think.

[Barbus]

Turns out Suarez didn't dive after all.

[Flagman]

Turns out Suarez, the weasel-faced cheating little rat bastard shit, didn't dive after all.

Corrected your typo there, Barbus.

[Flagman]

From (of all the places) Sickipedia:

I don't understand why the Scousers hate "The Sun" newspaper?

After all - if "The Sun" hadn't printed the 'The Truth' story, they'd have had nothing to bang on about for 23 years...

[Barbus]

Corrected your typo there, Barbus.

Thank you

[Barbus]

Heard on the radio this morning that Rodgers wants everyone to lay off poor old persecuted Luis.

Hasn't it occurred to him to tell the little **** to stop diving?

[Flagman]

It had escaped my recall, but during the recent World Cup, unfancied Ghana had reached the quarter finals, and something of a fairy tale was brewing, with Ghana about to be the first African team to make the semis.

A deliberate handball to prevent a certain goal stopped Ghana winning, and led to the penalty shootout in which they lost.

The loveable, charming, not-at-all-a-little-cheating-shit who broke African hearts?

Step forward, Luis Suarez.

[incapable hulk]

It had escaped my recall, but during the recent World Cup, unfancied Ghana had reached the quarter finals, and something of a fairy tale was brewing, with Ghana about to be the first African team to make the semis.

A deliberate handball to prevent a certain goal stopped Ghana winning, and led to the penalty shootout in which they lost.

The loveable, charming, not-at-all-a-little-cheating-shit who broke African hearts?

Step forward, Luis Suarez.

To be fair, that was justice in a way- as it was a blatant dive by the Ghanian player that gave them the free kick which created that chance.

[No 5 Terry Wilson]

It had escaped my recall, but during the recent World Cup, unfancied Ghana had reached the quarter finals, and something of a fairy tale was brewing, with Ghana about to be the first African team to make the semis.

A deliberate handball to prevent a certain goal stopped Ghana winning, and led to the penalty shootout in which they lost.

The loveable, charming, not-at-all-a-little-cheating-shit who broke African hearts?

Step forward, Luis Suarez.

First off i would like to point out that in no way am i condoning the mans actions since this incident. I dont agree with his diving or play acting it is soemthing that needs to be looked into further and punished as have all other players that do it such as Bale.

But at the time in a way i dont think he did anything wrong that wasent punished.........

He handled it and was sent off knowing full well that it was highly unlikely that the penalty kick would be saved.

Ghana were given the advantage of an extra man and a opportunity to score a penalty kick. It was not Sureazs fault that the player taking the penalty kick decided to place it in row Z. His actions also ment that he was not available to play in his country's first semi final since 1970.

He took the risk and it paid off for him....... 99 times out of a 100 it wouldnt have done.

Surely you cant say that if it was you and England could reach the semi finals you wouldnt take the hit for your team? Not only that if the penalty would have been scored the game you would have missed would have been something daft like a European championship qualifier against some duff eastern European team.

Stuff fairy tales in football, i want to win.

[Tutts]

I remember Stuart Pearce doing a full length diving save once against Brazil back in the 80's at Wembley.

Ref didn't even see it!

[PynchonForest]

I dunno. That dive on the weekend was so bad it wasn't even close to humourous. For the ref to not caution him, no balls at all.

And Huth is a complete lunatic, but if you're gonna stamp someone, may as well be Suarez.

[PynchonForest]

And actually, Suarez worst transgression was when he was in Holland. He bit an opponent. And got sold to Liverpoof because the club "didn't support him" . I think he was given 8 games for that.

You can't really find a more despicable punk than Luis Suarez.

Having said all of that, the king of nutmegs. He must do it at least once a game, every game. And it almost always works.

[chriscl]

And actually, Suarez worst transgression was when he was in Holland. He bit an opponent. And got sold to Liverpoof because the club "didn't support him" . I think he was given 8 games for that
.

When he was at Ajax. Some of his behaviour was appalling there as well.

[No 5 Terry Wilson]

When he was at Ajax. Some of his behaviour was appalling there as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58ILbyflta8

[sedgred]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58ILbyflta8

Thanks for the link

I ams at here stunned and have never witnessed anything like that on a pitch before. The man is slime in the gutter.

[NWRed]

The worm may be turning. Slowly. Look...

I HAVE defended Luis Suarez so far this season, but it's not always easy. The denial of penalty claims by referees has been worrying but he doesn't help himself.
His blatant dive in the Stoke City penalty area was embarrassing.
I grew up watching people like Roger Hunt, Tommy Smith, Steve Heighway and Ian Callaghan. Real men who played the game honestly.
That kind of behaviour is, to my mind, unacceptable for a Liverpool player.
Brendan Rodgers should tell him that it will not be tolerated.
Suarez does himself and the team no favours by cheating. It gave Tony Pulis the perfect excuse to pontificate whilst conveniently ignoring the disgraceful tactics of his own team – Robert Huth should have walked for his petulant stamp.
Luis is a fantastic player and vital for the style of football the manager is striving for.
He should cut out the silliness and do what he's good at.

From a reader. A real one.

[Huxley]

It's a start.

...and it only took nearly two years for the penny to drop.

[NWRed]

Diving for a penalty v handballing on the line...

Assume 4 out of 5 penalties are scored (it's about that many, I think). So 1 penalty = 0.8 goals.

Handling on the line is almost always spotted - so you are basically swapping 1 goal against for 0.8 goals against. It's a 'saving' of 0.2 goals and earns you an automatic red card.

Diving successfully in the area gets you 0.8 of a goal. If referees spot half of such dives, a dive attempt is worth 0.5 x 0.8 = 0.4 goals - twice as much as handling on the line. Unless referees manage to spot three quarters of such dives, diving in the area will always make more sense than handling on the line. Yet diving is still seen as something shameful. I'd much rather a Forest player won a penalty by diving than got themselves sent off handling on the line. In an ideal world, nobody would do either. But this is not an ideal world.

They're both cheating, it's just that one of them is much easier to spot, and therefore less effective. Doesn't mean there's anything nobler about it.

[No 5 Terry Wilson]

Thing is if you actually took the diving and biting and alleged racism out of his game he is actually one hell of a player although like Andy Cole he needs 7 chances to score 2.

[RobbieLePop]

Diving for a penalty v handballing on the line...

Assume 4 out of 5 penalties are scored (it's about that many, I think). So 1 penalty = 0.8 goals.

Handling on the line is almost always spotted - so you are basically swapping 1 goal against for 0.8 goals against. It's a 'saving' of 0.2 goals and earns you an automatic red card.

Diving successfully in the area gets you 0.8 of a goal. If referees spot half of such dives, a dive attempt is worth 0.5 x 0.8 = 0.4 goals - twice as much as handling on the line. Unless referees manage to spot three quarters of such dives, diving in the area will always make more sense than handling on the line. Yet diving is still seen as something shameful. I'd much rather a Forest player won a penalty by diving than got themselves sent off handling on the line. In an ideal world, nobody would do either. But this is not an ideal world.

They're both cheating, it's just that one of them is much easier to spot, and therefore less effective. Doesn't mean there's anything nobler about it.

You can do twice as many dives in the area than you can handling on the line though, presuming both are spotted and both are dealt with by the referee.