Surely, who they are and the views they hold are rather crucial factors when looking at a big stack of information. Especially when in a position of massive influence.
LTLF hivemind can be as biased as they like because, and thank the lord for this, the resulting opinions won't be broadcast across the country as stonewall ice cold fact moments later.
MUST we fucking start this again? I thought we'd stopped saying 'ah, but the report...' and 'ah, but Heysel...' to each other and had moved on.
What did you expect to happen when you posted that? Am I supposed to read it and think: "My GOD! He's right!!!! It IS all bollocks! How can I have been so blind for so long? Thank you, GOBIAS Industries, for opening my eyes to the real truth with your words of infinite wisdom!"
You're not offering anything new, so if you insist on raking the whole thing over again, why not just go back a few pages and read what we all said last time round?
Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go.
We've had two previous investigations that said that it was a terrible accident (neither blamed the Liverpool fans) so why have a third? Was it to attach blame to one or two individuals?
I really can't see how those who lost family and friends at Hillsborough are going to feel better when someone, anyone, is in prison. It won't bring anyone back and will be something that comes back to the surface at every parole hearing before that person is released.
The thing that really winds me up about all of this (and after living amongst scousers for a couple of years I don't have a pathological hatred for them) is that reminds just how shitty being a football fan was at the time. I worked a lot of Saturdays so couldn't get to a huge amount of games but the ones I did get to I was generally treated by a criminal by the police and as a target by the opposition fans.
Being spat on and coined for 90 minutes made it difficult to watch the match properly and on terraces just trying to keep your footing when anything exciting happened was a challenge. Your headstart for the car before they late the opposition fans out was useful for perfecting your sprinting through a crowd technique only to find that the car wouldn't start and you were fearing for your life.
At the time it seemed like fun but looking back I can't believe more people weren't, at the least, seriously injured.
Given the make up of those who came to the conclusion I strongly doubt the neutrality of the document. It was a terrible accident which brought about a massive change in football, so something good has come of those peoples' terrible losses.
It's a pity that those who lost their lives before them didn't force the issue earlier.
The interpretation of that report is that any set of football supporters would have lost 96 of their number on that day.
NW Red- prove they weren't biased. As a few have said, the panel's backgrounds could lead one to say they have an agenda. So that alone is enough to question it, which is all we are doing. So, again, I put it to you- prove they weren't, where is your evidence?
Bottom line is you can't prove it, as you keep saying to posters on here. So with your own logic, they are right.
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Can we just leave Hillsborough off this thread and go back to laughing at how shit the vermin scouse team is?