Alan Hansen

[Maverick]

I'm honestly not on a Segd-like wind up here, but what has he done wrong?
I don't like him, but is calling people "coloured" not the done thing now?

I am going to have to be very careful what I say at this rate, cos I haven't got a fucking clue what's right and what isn't any more.

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[winnits]

Coloured has been considered a not particularly appropriate way of referring to darker skinned folks since when I were a lad mate - although I accept Hucknall is a bit behind the times

I would imagine that the Beeb have guidelines on such things and that Hansen should've been briefed on it.

Having said that - I doubt anybody was really that offended by it. He is a dour-faced Liverpool-biased **** though, so if he can't be punished for that maybe he should be punished for this instead?

(On a sensible note, issuing a statement pointing out a generational thing, no offence intended, yada yada should be sufficient - much as I dislike the twunt he's a good pundit).

[clusternakker]

Its ignorant and i would guess offensive for assuming that everyone non-white can just be bracketed as 'coloured'

[congo_red]

Can I assume that the other members of the punditry team will be wearing T-shirts with his mug on in support of him during the next broadcast?

[Maverick]

Coloured [ˈkʌləd]
n pl Coloureds, Coloured
1. (Social Science / Peoples) an individual who is not a White person, esp a Black person

'S what I thought.

Just call me a dinosaur, I suppose.

[congo_red]

Coloured [ˈkʌləd]
n pl Coloureds, Coloured
1. (Social Science / Peoples) an individual who is not a White person, esp a Black person

'S what I thought.

Just call me a dinosaur, I suppose.

All part of the ongoing cycle mate. Orginally, of course, 'blacks' and 'negros' were both considered acceptable terms, until someone thought they were offensive and that we should use 'coloured' instead...then someone else deemed that offensive, so we have to move on to the next word. Soon 'ethnic' will be deemed a slur too.

[winnits]

At least you've stopped calling 'em 'darkies', Phil!

[Andy!]

Stupid honkey.

[Tutts]

Coloured [ˈkʌləd]
n pl Coloureds, Coloured
1. (Social Science / Peoples) an individual who is not a White person, esp a Black person

'S what I thought.

Just call me a dinosaur, I suppose.

Whilst you're modernising Mav, can you please stop calling me a Poofter?

Raving Homo is perfectly sufficient.

[Rich]

Coloured [ˈkʌləd]
n pl Coloureds, Coloured
1. (Social Science / Peoples) an individual who is not a White person, esp a Black person

'S what I thought.

Just call me a dinosaur, I suppose.

Had this chat with Chris a while ago when he intimated I was racist for referring to someone as black, when he thought it should be coloured.

Black is the more modern and accepted term, coloured is quite a racial slur nowadays.

[Rich]

Check the end of the video attached to the Metro site!

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/885632-a...tch-of-the-day

In case it gets taken off the page



I wonder if the Metro bothered to watch it!

[Le Juif Rouge]

Coloured [ˈkʌləd]
n pl Coloureds, Coloured
1. (Social Science / Peoples) an individual who is not a White person, esp a Black person

'S what I thought.

Just call me a dinosaur, I suppose.

The "Coloureds" in South Africa happily call themselves just that......much to the annoyance of the Yanks who regard it as an offence.

They also used to have their annual "Coon Carnival" every New Years Eve in Cape Town until the Yanks again got upset and had it changed to the "Minstrel's Carnival".

[Alvar Hanso]

It's embarrassingly outdated, but I wouldn't have put the word 'coloured' in the offensive category. Oh well, I've learnt something new.

Bloody PC brigade, they'll be banning poppies in the Body Shop next.

[winnits]

Alright, pipe down, Enoch!

[DanR]

Am I still allowed to ask my daughter to do some colouring in, or does that make me a racist?

[winnits]

No, that's fine, colouring-in is racially non-specific:

[DanR]

That's great, I didn't want to spend the Christmas holidays with people treating me like John Terry.

Hansen is a decent pundit, I wish he'd ask Shearer to either say something interesting or piss off back to his fence painting though.

[MSG]

I've never been good at keeping up with fashion. When I was a lad coloured was better than black. My black mates now prefer to be called black, but I'm getting used to that.

I'm probably about Hansons age and his fashion sense is shit too.

[Redwalton]

I didn't know you can't use the word ' coloured ' to describe coloureds either.....it's not going to stop me saying it,so sue me.

[Maverick]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one wallowing in a cesspit of ignorance.

[DanR]

I've never heard Hucknall called that before.

[Maverick]

Ooooh, get you, poncey Beestonians!

[Alex]

Coloured, I think, is offensive because it implies that not being coloured is the natural state of things. It's a bit like Germaine Greer's theories about women being classed as men without genitals, ie female eunuchs, and therefore inferior rather than just different. If you say someone is 'coloured' it implies that there is a natural state in opposition to that, ie not being coloured. But everyone has a colour, ergo everyone is coloured - the people we refer to as 'white' are, in the words of Steve Biko, more pink than white. White, pink, whatever - it's a colour, so even though I'm a white person, why not refer to me as coloured? To assume the 'colour' white is the norm and then classify other people by their relative difference to that norm is offensive because it implies inferiority. White, black - those terms can operate on a level playing field. Coloured and white, doesn't that just sound like dirty and clean? Soiled and pure?

That said, an apology should suffice from Hansen who is just a product of his times. At least they are discussing these issues on Match of the Day now: when Hansen was playing, the days of monkey chants and banana throwing, they ignored the whole problem.

[Lincoln-red123]

I think its a subject where people pick and chose what they get offended by. I also wonder how many people who were actually black complained...

[congo_red]

Coloured, I think, is offensive because it implies that not being coloured is the natural state of things. It's a bit like Germaine Greer's theories about women being classed as men without genitals, ie female eunuchs, and therefore inferior rather than just different. If you say someone is 'coloured' it implies that there is a natural state in opposition to that, ie not being coloured. But everyone has a colour, ergo everyone is coloured - the people we refer to as 'white' are, in the words of Steve Biko, more pink than white. White, pink, whatever - it's a colour, so even though I'm a white person, why not refer to me as coloured? To assume the 'colour' white is the norm and then classify other people by their relative difference to that norm is offensive because it implies inferiority. White, black - those terms can operate on a level playing field. Coloured and white, doesn't that just sound like dirty and clean? Soiled and pure?

Umm, just to split hairs, but white and black are, techincally, NOT colours.